{"id":659,"date":"2014-05-06T23:34:02","date_gmt":"2014-05-06T23:34:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michelledevon.com\/?p=659"},"modified":"2021-01-03T23:34:54","modified_gmt":"2021-01-03T23:34:54","slug":"through-the-nose-and-then-some","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michelledevon.com\/index.php\/2014\/05\/06\/through-the-nose-and-then-some\/","title":{"rendered":"Through The Nose (and then some)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(warning, possibly graphic images are posted here) I realize that some of you are going to gripe at me about this\u2013lecture me about how I should have done this differently, and you mostly certainly wouldn\u2019t be wrong. But before anyone tells me that I should have made better choices, I do need you to understand: This isn\u2019t a normal situation. This isn\u2019t like a normal person who only gets sick once in a while and then something major happens and you, of course, go to the ER. With me and people with severe chronic or life-threatening diseases, there are two changes to how we go to the ER. First, we go more often than ordinary people for some things, because the little things that don\u2019t bother you much at all when you\u2019re stronger bother us a lot worse. And the second is, we often don\u2019t go to the ER for things that might usually send you to the ER.<\/p>\n<p>For example, chest pain is a normal experience for me. I have PH. My chest is going to hurt. There\u2019s really nothing I can do about it. If YOU get chest pain, you should go to the ER immediately. If I get chest pain, I have to consider if it\u2019s the same kind of pain I usually get or if it\u2019s a new pain or changed any before I go, otherwise, I\u2019d be there a couple of times per day. Plus, chronically ill people have enough medical appointments and stuff to deal with, we try to avoid adding any extra whenever we can do so.<span id=\"more-3151\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>That said, I do realize that a person who is on coumadin (blood thinners) should probably have gone to the ER sooner than two days after a nosebleed started and wouldn\u2019t stop. I get that. I do. But a it\u2019s a nosebleed. I mean, it\u2019s a children\u2019s ailment, a rarity for an adult, and usually it doesn\u2019t last long. It goes away in a few minutes. But somehow, the few minutes turned into hours. Then the anxiety grew about how they would comment on how I should have come in earlier and then that delays me wanting to go and then it just gets worse and worse from there.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/through-the-nose-and-then-some\/myeyeresize\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3152\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3152\" src=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/myeyeresize.png\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 244px) 100vw, 244px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/myeyeresize.png 694w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/myeyeresize-150x94.png 150w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/myeyeresize-300x188.png 300w\" alt=\"myeyeresize\" width=\"244\" height=\"153\" \/><\/a>But I did eventually go. I took a shower first, which was interesting. I couldn\u2019t hold my nose while I was showering, so I watched as pale pink and red water ran down my chest every time I rinsed my face off. Ugh. There was a lot of blood. I know you\u2019re thinking, \u201cNah, it just looked like a lot,\u201d but I have the medical records\u2013it was a lot of blood.<\/p>\n<p>So I finally, when I blew out a blood vessel in my eye, I figured it was past time to go in.<\/p>\n<p>We got there, and the guy walked us immediately to the triage area, where we got checked in fast. They immediately took my bleeding self back to the same room 108 in the ER that I was taken the first time I ever went there, back when I had the PEs.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The first thing they did was insert the IV, as always, so they could draw some blood\u2013like I didn\u2019t have enough of that to go around. I asked them if they couldn\u2019t just hold the tubes\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/through-the-nose-and-then-some\/20140427_035036\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3153\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-3153\" src=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_035036.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 123px) 100vw, 123px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_035036.jpg 1836w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_035036-84x150.jpg 84w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_035036-576x1024.jpg 576w\" alt=\"20140427_035036\" width=\"123\" height=\"218\" \/><\/a>under my nose and take it that way, but they said no. Hey, I thought it was a good idea! The bad part about the IV was where they put it. It was on my wrist (see picture) and it ended up blowing on me, so I have a huge purplish bruise on my wrist right now. Ugh.<\/p>\n<p>So next the doctors came in, and this is sort of where it starts to get funny. No one knows what to do with me. Because I\u2019m on blood thinners, they can\u2019t do the septal button. Because I\u2019m on oxygen, they can\u2019t to the silver nitrate to cauterize it. They can\u2019t get the blooding to stop any more than I can. So this doctor makes this little contraption\u2013with tongue depressors and tape. Seriously\u2013he said it works and would let me rest my hands, since I\u2019d been holding them up to my nose and alternating for two days.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s what that looked like\u2013this is seriously funny, so it\u2019s okay to laugh. I thought I looked like Pinocchio.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/through-the-nose-and-then-some\/nose\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3154\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-3154\" src=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/nose.png\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 132px) 100vw, 132px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/nose.png 720w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/nose-128x150.png 128w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/nose-256x300.png 256w\" alt=\"nose\" width=\"132\" height=\"154\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But the thing is, for a short time, it seemed to work. As you can see, I have my oxygen cannula in my mouth, since I can\u2019t very well stick it up my bleeding nose. So there\u2019s these sticks on my nose, holding it together and applying pressure. There\u2019s still some blood dripping from my nose, but it\u2019s mostly staying shut and slowing down. They take the stick off in about 15 minutes, and they think, OK, it stopped\u2013yay! Until I bent my head forward and this huge, and I mean like as big around as a softball-sized clot of blood comes out of my nose and splats, and then it starts gushing again.<\/p>\n<p>Sigh.<\/p>\n<p>While I had this thing on my nose, though, there was blood draining down the back of my throat and they didn\u2019t want me to swallow it since blood in the stomach can cause puking, so instead, they gave me this suction thingy to suck the blood out of my throat. Uhm, do you know how far back post nasal drip is? This thing\u00a0<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-3155\" src=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_040326.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 148px) 100vw, 148px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_040326.jpg 1836w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_040326-84x150.jpg 84w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_040326-168x300.jpg 168w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_040326-576x1024.jpg 576w\" alt=\"20140427_040326\" width=\"148\" height=\"264\" \/>was weird\u2026 but it did help, strangely enough.<\/p>\n<p>So they then bring in, ready for this? A bottle of Afrin. Yes, they actually believe that Afrin is going to stop this massive nosebleed. So I squirt it in one side two squirts and squirt it in two sides, two squirts. I can taste it in the back of my throat on one side but not the other\u2013so the nurse says, \u201cLet\u2019s make sure we get it in there.\u201d She tilts my head back and then squeezes the bottle and DRAINS that sucker into my nose, down my throat\u2013my god, she\u2019s lucky I didn\u2019t puke on her!<\/p>\n<p>But still, the nose wouldn\u2019t stop bleeding. And there was so much blood, they couldn\u2019t even tell where the blood was coming from.<\/p>\n<p>So finally, around 5 in the morning, they had to call the ENT who was on call, paged him and woke him up, so he could come in. The bring in this tray\u2013and I learned a fancy word: epistaxis. That\u2019s the fancy word for noseblood.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/through-the-nose-and-then-some\/20140427_041701\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3156\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-3156\" src=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_041701.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 162px) 100vw, 162px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_041701.jpg 3264w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_041701-150x84.jpg 150w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_041701-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160807092123im_\/http:\/\/dyingtolive.michelleldevon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/20140427_041701-1024x576.jpg 1024w\" alt=\"20140427_041701\" width=\"162\" height=\"91\" \/><\/a>So they bring in an epistaxis kit, and I feel like they are about to do surgery on me right there in the ER! It was a little scary. However, the ENT doctor was the same doc I had met when I went to the ENT about the sinusitis and minor nosebleeds before, and we just adored him. He\u2019s super funny and makes it a lot less painful to need medical care. He not only had been awakened to come in and take care of me, but he wasn\u2019t even supposed to be on call-and yet, he was happy and joking and chipper and just really a nice guy who seemed to care a lot about my comfort and my situation. He had read my chart before I came in and new things about my clotting stuff and all that. Really impressed me and made it easier to calm down.<\/p>\n<p>So he opens up this kit\u2013and it comes\u00a0 into the room all wrapped up and taped to show it\u2019s sterile. You can see it in the pictures, and inside are all these medieval metal torture devices. No, you don\u2019t understand\u2013THEY LOOKED LIKE TORTURE DEVICES! So then he put a towel on me, then he draped me with absorbent blue cloth drape, then he got his little thing on his head with the light and he wanted to USE those torture devices on ME.<\/p>\n<p>He did a lot of exploring and pulling gunk out of my nose, and he found where the bleeding was coming from. His next step was to put this super-absorbent dissolving foam made out of this celluloid stuff into my nose to pack it. The foam was several inches long and he cut it into thin strips. While he did that, he had sprayed my nose with this stuff that was supposed to make it numb. Only problem is, the huge blood clots in my nose didn\u2019t let the numbing stuff go all the way up in there, so when he started shoving things up into my nose, I felt it all full force. Soooo, cleaned out the gunk from my nose\u2013a blood clot the size of a baseball comes out of my nose (you think I\u2019m joking\u2013I\u2019m not), and then more spray up my nose. This time, I can taste the really nasty tasting stuff in the back of my throat, so he knew it made it all the way through.<\/p>\n<p>And then he proceeded to shove the packing up into my nasal cavities. Everything was sort of swollen and icky and I felt all stuffed up like you would if you had a cold. It wasn\u2019t a pleasant feeling but it wasn\u2019t painful or anything either. He then prescribed me some very high-dose antibiotics, because he said, \u201cWith that packing in there, we\u2019re going to give you sinusitis. Might as well head it off.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Lovely.<\/p>\n<p>But at least for the moment, the bleeding was stopped and I was feeling a lot better about things. I had to rest there and wait for them to make sure there was no more bleeding and make sure there was no reaction to what they did to me and all that, and then I got to finally go home.<\/p>\n<p>The dissolving foam stuff is actually kind of cool. It keeps you from having to go back in and have the packing removed, which I\u2019ve heard can be quite painful, since they can\u2019t numb anything before removing the packing. However, when the stuff started to fall apart and was starting to come out, it came out in big gooey clumps and some of it wanted to come out down the back of my throat while parts of it were still stick in my nose. It was hitting my gag reflex and I couldn\u2019t get it to go up and out or down and out\u2013it was totally gross, I ended up puking and then it all finally blew out through my nose. It was disgusting. You\u2019ll be grateful to know I did not take any pictures of THAT.<\/p>\n<p>Most of the packing has now come out. My nose is in the process of healing. There\u2019s still some bleeding, but it\u2019s just small amounts now. And I did end up with a roaring case of sinusitis just like he said. Still taking antibiotics for another 5 days or so, so that should help kick it all out. The antibiotics sure don\u2019t help me feel good though\u2013these suckers are strong and oogey making.<\/p>\n<p>THE SAD PART<\/p>\n<p>But as much fun as all that was, ha ha, the sad part of this is that I was told I could never wear a nasal cannula for my oxygen again, ever. In fact, I believe his exact words were, \u201cnever again, never ever, never, ever, ever again.\u201d Which might have made me laugh, if it hadn\u2019t been me he was saying it to. The only other option is to wear a mask. And it\u2019s nearly impossible to function with a mask. Those of you who wear CPAP masks to sleep at night, or know someone who does, imagine having to wear something similar to that, all the time, during the day, even when you\u2019re awake. Imagine trying to talk on the phone, move, eat, have a conversation or go out in public with a mask like that over your mouth and nose. That is what he was telling me I had to do now.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll talk more about the mask and stuff later. For now, this is long enough and I\u2019m going to post it, \u2019cause I\u2019ve been writing it for something like four days now and if I keep writing in it every time I FEEL something about what happened, I\u2019ll never post it.<\/p>\n<p>The important point is, I didn\u2019t bleed to death, the ER doc was pretty nice, my nose finally stopped bleeding, and I\u2019m home again as safe and sound as I ever have been.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to everyone who put up with me whining on my Facebook statuses about my nosebleed. I know that\u2019s not the most pleasant thing to read, but, hey, yanno, that\u2019s my life.<\/p>\n<p>Love and bloody stuff,<\/p>\n<p>Michy<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(warning, possibly graphic images are posted here) I realize that some of you are going to gripe at me about this\u2013lecture me about how I should have done this differently, and you mostly certainly wouldn\u2019t be wrong. 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